Our Audi RS3 Longtermer Has Caused A Huge Office Argument

The RS3 saloon's extreme capability hasn't won over everyone at CT headquarters...
Our Audi RS3 Longtermer Has Caused A Huge Office Argument

Thanks to the arrival of a Hyundai i30 N which we’ll be living with for six months, there’s been a little reshuffle at CT HQ’s test garage. Editor Matt has the keys to the Hyundai, handing over the Audi RS3 we’ve had since December to CT Head of Video Alex.

However, while the RS3 managed to work its way under Matt’s skin, Alex is less enamoured with the beast. And that’s caused a bit of an argument in the office…

Matt Robinson: I hear you think the RS3 saloon is boring. Shall we discuss how wrong you are?

Alex Kersten: Yes, I find it boring, and here’s why…

The RS3 should be exciting. It should be addictive to drive, and it should sound incredible. Unfortunately, the car manages only one of these things, and that’s noise, because its turbocharged five-cylinder engine really does sound the nuts.

Everything else, though, is just anodyne and a bit boring. And that’s because the RS3 is too easy to drive. It’s a car my mum could drive fast, and it just doesn’t get my blood pumping.

The reason why is because everything about the RS3 is so intuitive, and little skill is needed to get a lot out of it. There’s no challenge, you don’t need to spend time getting to know it, and there are no surprises (unlike the Fiat Coupe 20V Turbo we filmed recently, which is full of them).

And that for me is a shame, because as a petrolhead, I love spending time figuring out how to extract the best performance out of a car and having to use my driving skill to keep the thing planted on the road. With the RS3, I just don’t get that; the gears change themselves better than I ever could, grip is endless, and there’s never a feeling of ‘oh shit, I might have screwed up this corner!’

Is the RS3 too capable for its own good?
Is the RS3 too capable for its own good?

MR: OK, I’ll agree that the RS3 - like a lot of modern performance cars - does make it a little too easy. But I think there’s a place for cars like that, which perhaps don’t take a lot of skill to drive - they’re more about learning to trust the machine under you and how best to extract its full potential.

When the RS3 is clinging on as you nail it around a corner, four-wheel drive system digging in and lateral G-forces making a mess of your face - how is that not exciting? Does there need to always be a challenge? Riding a rollercoaster isn’t a challenge; eating a scotch bonnet chilli pepper doesn’t require skill; but both of those things are highly exciting.

AK: You say that the “four-wheel drive system digs in through corners” while “G-forces make a mess of your face.” The reason this is not exciting is because it’s fake. The car is doing the work, with you only as passenger. Sure, you’ll be going way faster than me in something like a Fiat Coupe, but in that car, it’s on me to get the corner right. And that’s what’s exciting, because there’s a very real fear of the unknown. I guess that’s what separates people who ‘love’ cars versus people who ‘enjoy’ cars, because some like to go fast without having to work for it, while others - me included - like to work with our cars for real rewards.

Our Audi RS3 Longtermer Has Caused A Huge Office Argument

MR: What I’m getting at is that there’s a place for uber-capable cars. It’s not the only way I like to get my kicks - don’t forget I also have a Caterham Seven racing car (who’s ‘pretty much a racing driver’ now, eh??) on my drive that has no power steering, no ABS and no traction control. I enjoy driving both, and for different reasons.

The key thing for me though is the RS3 is more than just mega grip, five-pot noise and an explosive power delivery - finally Audi is making cars with properly sharp front ends and decent steering. Yes it’s easy to drive too, but it’s satisfying in its own way.

I feel like we’re going around in circles here, so let me put this another way: you have about £45,000 to spend on a new performance car. Where does your money go?

Our Audi RS3 Longtermer Has Caused A Huge Office Argument

AK: I agree that the RS3 steers, handles and performs incredibly. But my money would go on a BMW M2. It’s edgier, less forgiving, and the closest thing to a true enthusiast car as you can get these days (for the money, and in this bracket of cars).

Then again, you know me, so for the same £45,000 I’d choose a Fiat Coupe 20V Turbo, an E46 M3, my (currently engine-less but soon-to-be-V6-equipped) MX-5, plus something like an BMW E39 530d Touring. Oh, and some sort of van. Because I love vans!

MR: Your version of exciting seems to be a little more narrow than my definition. And didn’t you say the M2 was underwhelming last time you drove it? That’s something we actually agree on! What we need is for BMW to hurry up and make that S55-engined M2 Competition, which I reckon would be the one to have. Except it isn’t here yet, and will probably end up being quite expensive.

Oh, and a van? Really? Can tell you’re getting old…

Would you have a BMW M2 over the RS3?
Would you have a BMW M2 over the RS3?

AK: Yep, vans are awesome, and age is just a number - I know I look younger than you, so that’s good enough for me.

Anyway, time to wrap this up, so let’s agree to disagree about the RS3. And yes, I probably am narrow minded when it comes to what makes a car fun, but that’s the beauty of being a car enthusiast. Some people are right (me), while others clearly don’t know what they want (you).

Finally, I think it’s important to remember that there is a time and a place for driving in a more mild-mannered way (most of the time, in fact), and that’s what the RS3 does very well. It’s comfortable, well equipped, has the nicest interior of just about any modern car (virtual cockpit FTW), and smashes through hundreds of miles without breaking into a sweat. So massive thumbs up to it for that!

MR: I think we need to agree to disagree on that age point too…

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Comments

Aaron 15

I think Alex is stuck in the past.

04/08/2018 - 10:34 |
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Tomislav Celić

In reply to by Aaron 15

Lmao me too😂

04/08/2018 - 10:37 |
16 | 4

lol yes

04/08/2018 - 10:59 |
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I agree

04/08/2018 - 18:41 |
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Dave 12

Ah the big question. Are driver aids boring? I don’t think so. The enjoyment for me doesn’t come from the mechanical experience of the work itself. As someone who is interested in cars obviously it can at times but far more than that is the dopamine hit I get from driving really fast around country roads. The enjoyment of the physical act of driving is more of a nerdy self satisfied pleasure. Adrenaline triple trumps that times a million. I agree with Matt.

04/08/2018 - 10:35 |
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^

04/08/2018 - 10:59 |
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theAQUAwolf (audibros)

We’re moaning about a car that is very fast and capable, but it lacks excitement. I would be more sad that in about 20-30 years self driving will be taking over and barley anymore human driven cars will be left.

04/08/2018 - 10:36 |
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I was going to say, the RS3 is exciting to me just because it’s not hybrid or electric or, even worse, self-driving yet

In the world where even AMG said that there are no more V12s to come and the next C63 will be hybrid, anything that has an engine sound like the RS3 and a steering wheel is exciting

04/08/2018 - 11:20 |
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There will always be a manual option to take the wheel, just like planes.

04/08/2018 - 14:14 |
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Tomislav Celić

My take is

There are two types of people:

The “I went into the corner too fast, but then I managed to correct the car with my brave maneuvers.”

And the “I went into the corner too fast but my very intelligent AWD system paired with the most amazing 7 way traction control and magnetic suspension that re-adjustes itself 300 times a second managed to save me”

In the end I respect both, but I’m more of a second guy

04/08/2018 - 10:41 |
130 | 12

But isn’t driving a car about human skill, rather than electronic nannies?

04/08/2018 - 12:39 |
30 | 14

There is a third kind of person: the one without the capability for brave maneuvers and no intelligent all wheel drive system. Most commonly found leaving a car meet in an exuberant manner.

04/08/2018 - 15:43 |
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I’m just a wannabe first guy

04/09/2018 - 11:32 |
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Anonymous

here i sit and only care about straight line performance..

04/08/2018 - 10:58 |
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Tomislav Celić

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

Man haven’t seen you in ages, where have you been

04/08/2018 - 11:04 |
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UltimaSanctus

I will admit the RS3 does look a little boring. But i think thats just cause i feel like the nardo gray looks like a glossy primer

04/08/2018 - 11:13 |
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Chewbacca_buddy (McLaren squad)(VW GTI Clubsport)(McLaren 60

In reply to by UltimaSanctus

That’s just standard Audi RS styling. It’s more sleeper than supercar

04/08/2018 - 12:27 |
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TheMindGarage

Most buyers of these kinds of cars just want effortless performance. The RS3 totally delivers that. The idea of “all the car you need” sells. I would definitely like to see a RWD (or at least more rear-biased) version though. Or how about a TT RWS?

04/08/2018 - 11:48 |
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Matt Kimberley

You’re both wrong. An ‘06 Octavia vRS is clearly the way forward.

04/08/2018 - 11:51 |
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100% true

04/08/2018 - 12:09 |
4 | 0

How many times did the door panel fall out during the time it took you to wrote this comment?

04/08/2018 - 12:33 |
60 | 4

You all are wrong, just go for a Volvo V70R, the ultimate sleeper for a dad with a tad bit of child at heart.

04/08/2018 - 12:55 |
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Wheel Nuts

I’m with Alex. Cars need to be fun at low speeds too!

04/08/2018 - 11:51 |
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maurotehsilva

I agree with Matt on this. He’s the same guy that said driving something like a Caterham is a true joy on its own. But he also says here that easy to drive cars aren’t always boring to drive, that it comes with its own form of fun too. Matt’s more liberal with his thinking while Alex is letting his conservative thinking get in the way of what does make newer cars fun.

04/08/2018 - 11:58 |
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