6 Cars That Have Too Much Horsepower
What I’m about to say could offend some of you, but unless you’ve actually driven a high-performance car with at least 500bhp, it’s going to be tough to understand where I’m coming from on this piece. That’s why I’m going to offer a bit more exposition this time around before jumping to the requisite list of cars. And while it may look like a clickbait headline, this is coming from Car Throttle’s resident American muscle car fanboy, so give it a chance. I think there is a legitimate argument that sometimes cars have too much horsepower.
Race cars are obviously in their own realm, and nobody will pay £2m for a super-exotic hypercar with the horsepower of a hot hatchback. For the latter, horsepower is as much about status as it is performance, so they don’t apply.
That said, let’s break the argument down to three main points. We’re talking usable horsepower, range of application, and driving enjoyment. When it comes to usable power, I mean the ability to actually get that power to the ground. Obviously factors such as weight, grip, gearing, engine torque, and aerodynamics play a role, but having owned a 500bhp car and driven machines with up to 700 ponies, I believe that sweet spot generally resides around the 550 mark. Now, I’m talking general average here - that number could swing up to 600 or even down to 450 depending on those other factors. But why 550?
In my experience, that seems to be the tipping point between OMG and WTF, where OMG can still be somewhat entertaining while WTF usually means constant, unexpected loss of traction and/or soiling of your underpants. That is, unless you have all the computer assists turned on. Either way, you have all this power but you can’t use it.
That leads me to range of application, and I know what you’re thinking. If you can’t use all that power down low, just enjoy the rush of acceleration at higher speeds, right? Thing is, when you pass 600bhp, you reach a point where the range of application is so high, there’s just no practical way to enjoy all that power short of a German autobahn or a race track. And even if you take it to a track, that much power in a street car (i.e. not adequately prepped for racing) is often way too much for “seasoned” drivers to handle, never mind those with more money than brains.
This brings us to enjoyment. What’s there to not enjoy about ludicrous horsepower? There’s a big difference between a 500bhp Evo and a 650bhp supercar, the first being just how quickly the speed builds. You’re constantly scanning both the near and distant horizon for any possible hazard.
And every application of the throttle - even if you’re already at a brisk pace - is accompanied by a hyper-awareness of the slightest wheel spin. All-wheel drive helps, but all too often it gives drivers a false sense of security. If you abuse 700bhp, road signs will embed into your skull just as easily with all-wheel drive.
Now that you’ve laboured through my insight, am I right or wrong? I’m all about debating the issues, so while you think about it, here’s a short list of cars that are taking the horsepower war way too far. Some have lesser-powered models, and I’d bet a fiver with every CTZen here that, given the opportunity to drive both, you’d enjoy the “slower” ride much more.
1. Dodge Charger/Challenger Hellcat
Surely you knew these 707bhp muscle cars would top the list. 99 per cent of the time that power will be wasted in perpetual computer intervention or atomised rubber. Meanwhile the 485bhp SRT-8 is just as capable of putting on a smoke show, it’s more fun to throw around the back roads, and it checks in a lot cheaper.
2. Mustang Shelby GT500
The relaunched GT500 was great with 500bhp and just about perfect at 550. With 662bhp in 2013 the GT500 gained a half-second advantage in the quarter-mile and the ability to break the tyres loose at triple-digit speeds. Thankfully Ford took the new GT350 in a much better direction.
3. Ferrari 488GTB
Yes this is an exotic, but the 488 is Ferrari’s latest ‘volume’ car. Only a select few owners will ever disable the prolific computerised driving aids which, big surprise, control and limit the application of power. Dial it back 100bhp and let drivers have the same experience without all the computers doing the work.
4. Corvette C7 Z06
The previous-generation Z06 with 505bhp and a curb weight of 3100 pounds was an outstanding performance machine in all aspects, and even with all assists turned off it wasn’t overwhelming to drive quickly. The new C7 Z06 with 650bhp is 500 pounds heavier, only a few tenths quicker in acceleration, but now drivers have to wrestle the car to simply turn the same lap times.
5. Mercedes S65 AMG
This is a big, heavy car, and the 621bhp V12 almost works. Thing is, the S63 is just as fast with a 577bhp V8, it’s cheaper, and you can disable the traction control without blowing up the rear tyres every time you sneeze. What upsets me most is that, in 10 years, this car will cheap enough for college students to afford.
6. Dodge Viper SRT
The previous-generation SRT Viper with 600bhp was already unruly, but with some seat time was manageable for most mere mortals. The current Viper with 645bhp is literally one tenth faster to 60mph and requires the reflexes of a professional race car driver to realise its full potential. Yeah it’s fun, but you can have more fun with earlier Vipers at half the price.
Comments
What you are looking at also is a post about 6 cars that have too much power and torque; not just horsepower.
So what’s the ideal Horsepower then?
It really depends.
I think the amount of horsepower is irrelevant, it simply comes down to how well the car can put it down. A car with 400 bhp but terrible tyres and no all wheel drive is gonna be more sketchy than a 700 bhp car with huge grippy tyres and 4 wheel drive. I drove my 725 bhp R8 pretty fast in the rain the other day and for the most part it was absolutely fine and the power was still very usable once you got to 3rd gear
I did a video on this exact subject actually, arguing the opposite point https://youtu.be/8PAc4cvfjD4
Yes, I agree with you, you CAN have too much power. I actually prefer driving cars that are light with less HP but be nimble AF!
If you have 400+ hp you just Need 4wd
No such thing as to much power, just not enough control
This is precisely why I did a mild tune on my Focus to bring it to about 300hp at the crank and 350tq (again, at the crank). With that setup, it’ll still roast the tires through the middle of 3rd gear if you really want it to, but has the perfect amount of power to really accelerate out of turns with that “throw you back in your seat” kinda torque. It feels a lot more fun to drive than my 2013 Mustang 5.0 was
I think it also depends on engine confriguration: 4 banger with a huge turbo is almost undrivable on the street, but the same output in a v6 with smaller turbo’s comliments the car. There can also be such a thing like too much torque. The smooth power delivery of (for example) a v12 can make a 500bhp car feel like a rocket, but managable. The same 500bhp v8 with all the torque down low will break traction when you put your foot down before you can even speed up.