Are People Forgetting What The Supra Was? #blogpost
With the eventual release of the next generation Supra coming closer and closer, you read it more often than once that people think what the Mk.IV was and what the Mk.V must be.
With the eventual release of the next generation Supra coming closer and closer, you read it more often than once that people think what the Mk.IV was and what the Mk.V must be. Mostly these are people who weren’t even born when the production of the Mk.IV ended and will never be able to buy the Mk.V anyways, but that’s beside the point.
In the post I’m going to refer mainly to the Mk.IV supra since that’s what people associate with it. I’m aware there are more than just that one.
You often see two claims made about the Supra, or what the Supra should be et cetera.
1 - The price
2 - The character
I’m going to quickly make a point about each of the three.
The Price
Apparently people believe that the Supra used to be an affordable sports car for everybody. Oh, how wrong. The name literally means superior, why would one expect it to be a cheap car for the masses? It was the exact opposite.
The Supra Mk.IV had an MSRP only marginally lower than that of a Porsche 993 Coupé in 1993; that’s over €80,000 adjusted to today’s inflation. Eighty Tousand. And that’s not even the GTE version but the naturally aspirated GE version. The current 991 Coupé has a base price of over €90,000. It would be anything but a surprise if the Supra cracked the €100,000 mark. Well, assuming they’re going to put into the same market segment as the Mk.IV was.
The point is that the Supra never has been a model to rival the Nissan Silvia or similar cars. The name literally implied that the car’s opponents were the higher models, and the price was nothing short of that.
The Character
Alongside with the delusion of being affordable often comes the belief that the Supra used to be a back to the roots, no BS sports car. It wasn’t. When the Supra Mk.IV was released, is was nothing but a computer on wheels. It had tech everywhere. A highly modern traction control came standard and so did automatic aircon, the whole chassis was mostly an aluminium construction. The list of the tech gimmicks and the equipment is endless. The Supra was far away from being a spartan performance car with a classic chassis setup and a classic drivetrain. The Supra never was a car that had to keep some kind of legacy alive.
Speaking of the drivetrain… the JZ engine is not what a Supra makes a Supra. The only reason as to why the Supra Mk.III and Mk.IV had a 1JZ / 2JZ respectively was because it was a powerful performance engine for its day. It has nothing to do with character or with keeping the legacy of the predecessor alive, it was solely a decision from the technological point of view. You don’t see many Corvette C7s with a 350 iron small block and Cross-Fire injection under the bonnet anymore, do you? And for that exact reason, the Mk.IV Supra should, under no circumstances, have a JZ engine. A CAST IRON BLOCK IN 2017? WHERE DO I LIVE. That’s plain ridiculous. No modern car that has even the slightest demand of performance should have a cast iron block under the bonnet, let alone if it rivals the 911 and the Corvette.
So that’s pretty much it. I deliberately pixeled the names. The comments were taken from several CT staff posts announcing news about the supposed next generation Supra. If you happen to be one of the people who claimed similar things… congratulations, you are reason I’m triggered now and the reason my blood pressure rises.
Please share your opinion.
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Amen to you my brother. I feel like the new NSX has the same problem. People kept forgetting that NSX stands for New Sportscar eXperimental not “back to basics analog supercar”. I suppose all the “legit car guys” want something the Supra was never meant to be.
I was literally saying that out loud when I started reading your comment lol
I agree with your opinion.
All I gotta say is…
Agreed. Everything goes with the times. Its a basic rule, the reason behind innovation, discovery and modern catering. If we were austere and constantly rooted there would never be such a thing as a classic car or a legend, there would never be value in the age of a car. New cars become old and famed and thats what we love about classics, that they dont make them like they used to, which doesnt mean they should be making them from scratch.
Oh. MY. Goodness! You sir, deserve editors pick
What I expect from the new Supra, an alternative to the gtr and nsx, what I’d like in a new Supra, a straight six. Why does what I want matter? It doesn’t, I’m not in the market for a new Supra. The Supra will be whatever the market decides the new Supra will be.
Too many Supra fanboys. Thank you.
in that case there are to many gtr fanboys or mustang . people like diffrent cars. the world would be boring otherwise
Too many Supra fanboys lacking knowledge. Proper Supra fans have at least decent knowledge about the Supra.
MattRobinson
Isn’t that Griffin Mackenzie’s comment?
Regardless, fully agreed.
Yes.
Yes I am a jz fanboy lmfao
Thank you! It drives me crazy how so many people think the supra was an affordable sportscar that could compete with cars “twice its price”. Because it wasn’t at all, it was more a sportscar at a base supercar price.
It was supposed to compete with things like Skylines and M3’s, more as a grand tourer than a sports car. Like Nissan already having the Fairlady, Toyota already had the MR2.
Besides, anyone who’s played a TXR game knows the supra was really expensive
If you look it up on google, blatantly says “LUXURY VEHICLE”. What do they do in luxury cars? They fill it with technology and they aren’t cheap.
Very Very Very nice article! But actually to me it seems like, that when people argue about new cars being computers on wheels they do not necessarily mean any high tech driving enhancement. It´s about things like smartphone pairing for example. It feels like cars become “just another social media gimmck”. You know what I mean? That´s the point I guess.
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