7 Reasons The AE86 and The Miata Are Overrated

The Miata and the AE86 are great cars and it’s hard to deny that. However, it seems as if their imagined performance doesn’t live up to their actual performance. Both of these cars are very similar, so I thought I would save some time and do one article including both. My article about overrated BMW’s was probably one of the worst articles ever written, so this time, I’ll try my darndest to get this article right; here we go.

ONE Both the AE86 and the Miata aren’t that fast.
It seems as if many JDM cars suffer from exceedingly high expectations and hype. The Mark 4 Supra and Skyline GTR are both cars that are associated with big speed and big power. However, in stock form, they aren’t as fast as they’re hyped up to be. Same thing goes with the AE86 and the Miata. In Initial D, Takumi is beating drivers on the touge in cars that are much faster than his car in a Toyota Corolla. However, fanboy’s dreams of the capabilities of the AE86 never live up to the reality of what the AE86 really is. It’s 0-60 MPH time is about 8.5 seconds. To put things into perspective, a 1997 Toyota Camry could the same sprint 1 second faster. The Miata is also plagued by slow acceleration. The 0-60 sprint for a 1996 Mazda Miata takes 8.6 seconds, also slower than the 97 Camry. The Miata and AE86 are the opposites of sleepers, they are expected to be fast, but aren’t.

TWO If it weren’t for Initial D, the AE86 wouldn’t be very popular.
A stock Delorean was a terrible car, but ever since it starred in the Back To The Future movies, it’s become a car people drool over; the same thing has happened to the AE86. Because Takumi delivered tofu and raced in an AE86, people are willing to buy them for big amounts of money. AE86’s in good condition cost about $14,000, a bit much considering it’s a 40 year old car with 128 horsepower. If Initial D never aired, I’m sure AE86’s would be selling for half the price, and half of us car guys would never know about the Takumi mobile.

THREE The Miata has unshakable stereotypes.
Car stereotypes include truck drivers are compensating for things, BMW drivers never use their blinkers, Audi drivers tailgate people, and the Miata is a hair dresser/chick car. You’ll get jokes from car guys and non cars guys alike saying “Have you told your parents your gay yet?” and “Where in the car do you keep your hair dryer?” Because of this, people feel like they need to be more manly to compensate for this (Alex Kersten maybe?), so people become persons that they are not; just be yourself.

FOUR The AE86 is basically a souped up economy car.
The Toyota AE86 Sprinter Trueno is a Corolla. When most people think of a Corolla, they think of a small sedan that they can use to commute to work, not to the racetrack. The Corolla AE86 is worshiped by car guys while a brand new Corolla S is ignored by the same people. It seems like a little bit of a double standard, don’t you think?

FIVE The 80’s Supra is arguably a better sports car than the AE86.
The 80’s Supra can make up for what the Sprinter Trueno lacks, power. You can get a Mark 2 or a Mark 3 supra with a variety of larger turbocharged engines. This makes it faster and easier to make faster. Car and Driver named the Toyota Supra as one of the coolest cars from the 80’s, while the Sprinter Trueno was nowhere to be found on that list.

SIX The Miata blinds people to other alternatives.
It seems as if Miata owners talk about Miatas 24/7, even though there are other cars they could blabber about. MR2, Nissan S Chassis, Mg roadsters, there are a million light front engined RWD cars out there that are fun to drive. The pedestal we put the miata on blinds us from an assortment of choices, better, faster and cheaper ones. Remember, there are plenty of fish in the sea.

SEVEN You have to modify both cars in order to be competitive with other sports cars
A stock Miata can be a great learning tool for the track, but at some point you’re going to need more power, better brakes and better suspension. These cars fail to teach you how to control real power. Driving a Mustang GT or a Camaro SS will teach you to control power, not a Miata. Because the miata is overhyped, it drives up the prices of used ones. This means the Miata fails to serve its purpose within the car community, being an affordable blank canvas to hone your driving skill in or being a good project car. The Miata is just a start, it leaves the factory as a blank slate, waiting for you to make it into what you want, and what you need to drive. If the Miata left the factory with a turbocharger, that should fix things pretty good.

To all the haters out there

Comments

Fiero Nation

Haha! I love these! Brace yourself… The fanboys are coming!

01/27/2016 - 07:16 |
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I have a feeling they are all stuck in the salon…

01/27/2016 - 09:19 |
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The choice of the cars he posted about so far makes me believe that he wants to battle a private war against the CarThrottle staff.

When the GT-R is next he could become one of the first guys banned from CT ^^

01/27/2016 - 12:08 |
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Longsh07

“FIVE The 80’s Supra is arguably a better sports car than the AE86.”
Of course it is, but I’ve no doubt it was also more expensive to buy. Plus it had a bigger engine. You could argue the point that any mid engined super car is better than an MR2 because more money was spent on development.

“SEVEN You have to modify both cars in order to be competitive with other sports cars”
Totally disagree. A skilled driver will be able to out handle a lot of other cars in something small, light, and ‘slow’. I cant speak for the AE86 but having owned an MX5 I know just how capable it is when things get twisty. Mine had stock suspension and road tyres and I could close the gap on some far more powerful cars through the corners.

01/27/2016 - 07:25 |
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Tihomir Sakač

In reply to by Longsh07

That deopends on the driver more then on a car if you close a gap on someone. Once I was on twisty roads in a Skoda Fabia 1.4 68hp that understears constantly when you push it…and against a Civic Type S and the guy could not keep up with me. But if there was a driver behinde the wheel that had the same skills like me…it would be a different story :) So this street race storyes they don’t hold the water

01/27/2016 - 07:40 |
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I believe the miata impresses people in the corners. But I’m pretty convinced it’s more about its road manners than its actual performance.

The car communicates well and has good balance, but it’ll have a bad day up against a similar year mr2, camaro, or cobra stock for stock. The light weight isn’t enough to hide body roll and tiny tires.

They’re fun cars yes, but have been hyped into a backroad trump card against any and all domestics.

That’s my only real issue with the diehard “JDM” community. They’re so excited to be the black sheep and piss off Dad parking a nissan next to the chevelle that prices just keep skyrocketing on fairly mundane cars.

I’ve seen 160k mile 240sx’s for the same money as low miles 99 cobras on craigslist, the craze is getting out of hand

01/27/2016 - 08:57 |
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JDM814783648923482374

In reply to by Longsh07

in australia a70 supras are cheaper than the ae86 by over 10 grand…. blame initial d.

01/27/2016 - 11:48 |
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Not in the states. You can pick up fair condition MK.2 and 3 Supras for less than the price of a non-GTS Corolla, most of the time.

01/28/2016 - 01:09 |
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How much does the 80’ supra weigh stock? Easily 1000lbs more than the 86. And the cost was ludicrously more when they came out as well. They’re just different cars

01/28/2016 - 13:16 |
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Anonymous

No one buys a hachi or a miata for their straight line performance. Civics also fall under the souped up eco car. And most cars need modifications to be competetive. Its all based on a drivers skill and what a driver feels comfortable with it just so happens that

01/27/2016 - 07:29 |
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Anonymous

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

point made. love how people pick on cars and shout ngghhh they have no power so they are not competative.

01/27/2016 - 12:18 |
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Anonymous

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

A miata isnt made for a straight road as 90% of people already know. I love my miata and would say that it’s more fun than our boxter s, the power isn’t scary and you can go full throttle almost everywhere and it’s still fun.

01/28/2016 - 06:54 |
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Anonymous

*that these two cars are what a good chunk of drivers click with.

01/27/2016 - 07:30 |
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Anonymous

*straight line performance

01/27/2016 - 07:30 |
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V-Tech and EcoBoost kicked in yo

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

You do realize you can edit your own comments right…

01/27/2016 - 07:47 |
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Anonymous
  1. They weren’t meant to be fast
  2. I agree
  3. So what? A true enthusiast doesn’t care
  4. Your point? It has RWD a good weight bias and is lightweight that’s what gives it potential
  5. It was a tier above in the sports car class as well, just as Toyota intended
  6. It’s popular, it’s not that it blinds people from other options, it’s a good option to begin with
  7. Read my response to 1
01/27/2016 - 07:40 |
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Anonymous

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

I agree. Its about he feeling the car gives to you not about how fast it is.

01/27/2016 - 08:36 |
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Anonymous

You know I really like this post and enjoy reading people comments but you are wrong in the point four. The spiritual sucesor of the AE is the GT86 wich is also very appreciate between car people. If new corollas were rwd.. who knows.

01/27/2016 - 07:41 |
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Dat Incredible Chadkake

In reply to by Anonymous (not verified)

you have a point there

01/27/2016 - 14:12 |
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Mark Mason

Preach

01/27/2016 - 07:45 |
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Anonymous

Congrats, you win troll post of the month with this.

01/27/2016 - 08:01 |
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