If Dodge Unveils A New V8 Sports Car, I hope It Isn’t Called Viper
Plenty of sports cars, muscle cars and even hot hatchbacks have chequered histories where models weren’t so good. It’s a normal thing, but it’s not something you tend to find with the Dodge Viper.
The simple formula of an iron-built, large-displacement V10 engine, front-mid-mounted beneath a long bonnet, plus rear-wheel drive only, meant that everything else about the package was kind of superfluous. Always was, always will be on the ones that survive the years ahead. The Viper had a unique character: for those who loved it, nothing else would do.
We were sad to read of its demise. The word iconic is often bandied around too easily, but this was a machine that truly stood alone. Throughout its entire life it was what it was, and it was totally unapologetic about it. That’s why, if Dodge really does resurrect the concept for an all-new, V8-powered 2021 car, I’d hate to see it use the Viper name.
Closing the Viper’s empty order books was a sensible business decision from Dodge. It sold few enough as things were, but the numbers really took a plunge last year so a coup de grace was the only real option. Whatever people want has diverged from everything the Viper had become.
This rumoured 2021 car, with the brand-new alloy-block V8 that seems so likely, would have to be quite different. Better fuel economy, smaller exterior dimensions and easier everyday operation are likely to be priorities; we’ve seen it all before in cars like the Mustang. In short, it wouldn’t quite be true to the Viper spirit.
Of course, the engineers might go after that same ethos, recreating the Viper mentality as closely as possible but with a lighter, more efficient engine. Would that be different enough to appeal to those new customers the company craves, though? Probably not. As much as we, and many of you guys, want there still to be a proper Viper in the world, it couldn’t work, commercially. The next Dodge sports car is going to have to be a very different thing if it’s going to succeed long-term.
It’s right for Dodge to go after more sales, but I think it’d be wrong to hijack the Viper name if the fundamental character of the car is different. Maybe Dodge will come up with a ridiculously good V8 sports car to rival the C7 Corvette, but the Viper was never really meant to do that. The Viper name just wouldn’t fit in that role, after all this time.
The Americans are still very good at calling desirable cars desirable names. Where the Europeans these days get quite logical and alphanumeric about their cars, the US has always had things like Camaro, Charger, Thunderbird, Marauder, Barracuda, Stingray and Viper. Proper car names. I’m absolutely sure that they can come up with something else that’s just as emotive.
Other performance cars have had generations that sucked, or that put a dampener on the model’s heritage. Dodge should leave the Viper name to rest in peace, forever linked solely with that crazy, bombastic, V10-engined icon that never failed to excite.
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If only someone at Holden had read this article before they decided to name a European front wheel drive hatch the “Commodore”
Or that ‘Mach 1’ crossover thing Ford planned
So you guys never got the awd model?
At least they aren’t Mitsubishi
they wont make a sport car named Viper.
They will make an SUV named VIPER!!!!
Dodge Dart?
All it was a good car tbh
The original dart was a lightweight, smaller muscle car. That’d make perfect sense for a proper sports car really. As for a direct ‘Vette competitor, a new name would be best.
Why can’t they make a V10?
Surely a 5.0 twin-turbo V10 could make all the power and be more efficient than most of the muscle cars?
I know it would cost a lot to develop a completely new engine, but it could last for a couple of Viper generations and be used in other FCA performance vehicles for the years until electrisation fully kicks in
it ouldnt make power in the same way. like mr regular said about an older viper “this is a different 400hp”. every engine design has its pros and cons. reliability usualy suffers when you cram more power into a smaller dispacment also.
Honestly, isn’t Viper about being a rebel? Hell isn’t every single sports car about being a rebel. I mean engineers spend 90% of their time making the cars more and more efficient and environment friendly, so, every project ever started, was a rebell move. Many VW engineers that probably worked on a Golf went to work to Bugatti.
The point I’m trying to make?
If sports cars are about being a rebel, wouldn’t killing of every single aports car name, be against it? I mean, sooner or later, every single car will be an EV. But that doesn’t mean we should stop using the legendary names like Mustang, Viper, Corvette…
Leaving them on, and continuing is the best thing we can do, because only then we can prove, that car guys as a species will never, ever be dead
I agree. “Mustang” does not have to mean V8. To me, it means an affordeable performance car with lots of power and a “macho” personality.
Dodge has more than enough names under its belt to use on this car
They have unused names like the SRT Tomahawk and the Dodge Copperhead. Couldn’t see why they wouldn’t just name it one of those
Just remember that the Ford Probe was supposed to be the next Mustang. Still sporty, but much more economical. Not unlike the EV craze of today. Enough people hated the idea that Ford changed its mind. Some things just shouldn’t change. Sometimes, it’s better for a nameplate to die than live on as something different. The Cougar started off as a V8 powered pony car. It died as a four banger front-drive coupe that no one liked. It didn’t deserve that.
Guys, stop overreacting, this is DODGE, the guys who made the demon, it’s gonna be awesome.
Are we just gonna ignore the fact that Sergio denied the rumors of a new viper?
Lol I was just thinking that
Even though I’m a self-proclaimed V10 fanboy, I can live with a V8 Viper as long as it retains the original characteristics of the Viper. It should be an excessive, half-supercar-car-half-muscle-car tyre-spinning beast that takes some skill to drive. Given the Hellcat’s characteristics, I have some hope for it turning out like that.
Guys, most likely this won’t happen. Machionne said that its not in the future plan as it didn’t make any money for FCA.
On the topic of the viper: https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a21052484/sergio-marchionne-new-dodge-viper-not-in-the-plan/
Whoa, that’s the exact same title as my article, even though I hadn’t read that one. I guess it makes sense though.