Why I’d Have A Renaultsport Megane Cup-S Over The Faster And Crazier Honda Civic Type R
It’s easy to forget the Renaultsport Megane amidst a manufacturer mega-hatch arms race. For starters, the Civic Type R just trounced the RS’ front-wheel drive Nurburgring record, albeit in a pre-production car with a sodding great roll cage installed. And then, just when we were getting used to the idea of a £30,000 hot hatch lapping the Nordschleife quicker than recent releases from Ferrari and Porsche, Ford came along and pretty much said ‘FWD? LOLZ!’ with an all-wheel drive drift missile for the same price. Seat meanwhile made some mild changes to its Leon Cupra in a desperate attempt to appear relevant.
But in the Renault corner? Well, the regular Megane was replaced, and not long after, Renault revealed the cut-price Megane Cup-S, seemingly akin to a stock clearance special to shift a few more cars while the RS boffins cooked up this successor.
So, despite no 300bhp+ power outputs or fancy all-wheel drive drift button shenanigans, is it worth bothering with? Having brought one together with our ‘own’ Honda Civic Type R longtermer, it’s time to find out.
My first impressions? My, doesn’t that Renault look understated - pretty, even - next to the Honda with its festooning of wings and downright odd proportions. The older car here is the more sophisticated one, and as its £23,995 starting price undercuts the Type R’s base price by a whopping £6000, it’s by far the cheapest. Or it should’ve been…
Thanks to a load of options including a £2500 Akrapovic titanium exhaust (fruity, but not worth the cash), £2000 Ohlins Road and Track Dampers (worth the cash) and £1300 Recaro bucket seats (undecided), the Cup-S you see here costs £33,555. More than our top-spec ‘GT’ Type R’s £32,300 asking price, which is as expensive as you can make the Civic. The same can’t be said for the Megane - if you’re feeling frivolous enough you can punt the Renault over £35,000.
But that’s enough focus on price. Because firstly the boggo Cup-S is reasonably equipped, so it’s still a bargain if you go easy on the options. And secondly, what’s more important here is the way these two drive. So first up, let’s assess the Civic.
I’m well aware of what the Type R is like when you’re pressing on, but a brief stint in the Megane highlights its traits. And its driving personality matches the way it looks: it’s an unsubtle, sledgehammer of a thing to pilot, keen to bludgeon its way through any road you stick in front of it. The late Muhammad Ali’s mantra was to ‘float like a butterfly, sting like a bee’, an ideal that could be applied in the world of cars. But I suspect the Type R would rather stamp on the nearest butterfly and skip straight to the stinging part. Then kick your grandmother in the face for good measure.
+R mode is - as I’ve explained before - too firm for the road, but even with it off the suspension is stiff, so on some surfaces the Civic starts to feel nervous and skip about. For the most part though, you can expect extraordinary front-end grip, and a feeling of being dragged out of every corner as you stamp on the throttle as hard as you dare. Body roll is barely perceptible, so perhaps that uncompromisingly hard suspension isn’t such a bad thing.
It’s a similar story of brutishness with the power delivery: unlike pretty much every other modern turbo engine I’ve sampled lately, the Type R’s 2.0-litre unit feels decidedly boosty. It doesn’t hide its turbocharged nature: there’s a complete lack of activity before 3000rpm - despite VTEC being deployed here to boost low-end torque - a savage burst of power thereafter, and a very audible chuff from the wastegate every time you back off the throttle.
With the Honda ticking itself cool and the Renault’s stupid credit card-shaped key fob in my hand, it’s time for a refresher course in the ways of Renaultsport. And lordy, I’d forgotten just how brilliant these RS Meganes are. It’s a car that sends reams of glorious feedback through the steering to your fingertips, and through the chassis to your arse. It means that very quickly, you find yourself pushing to the limits of what the Cup-S can do, because you have the confidence of feeling exactly how it’s interacting with the tarmac.
Pretty soon, I’m starting to wash wide. It’s clear the Civic has a lot more front-end grip and has a stiffer set-up, but that doesn’t matter. Those pricey Ohlins dampers give the Renault a level of finesse you don’t find in the Honda, and once you mix the feedback into the equation, you have a much more delicate car that’s amazingly entertaining to drive. And that’s before you factor in what the rear is up to.
Both under braking and backing off at the right moment, you feel the rear wanting to move forward, and that extra level or wiggly-arsed-adjustability just isn’t something you get in the Civic.
Something else you don’t get is a linear(ish) power delivery. Yes, there’s a strong mid-range, but there’s none of the lag or the boosty nature of the Honda’s engine: just a crisp delivery and a much more satisfying, growly induction noise. What’s more, despite a power deficit - 271bhp to the Civic’s 306bhp - it’s barely slower, completing the benchmark 0-62mph sprint just a tenth slower in 5.9 seconds.
Certainly sounds like advantage Megane thus far, but it’s not all going the way of the Gallic contender. The gear change is perfectly fine, but no more than that: the Civic’s shift is shorter and has a spectacularly satisfying mechanical action, and what’s more you don’t get the same God-awful beep the Renault lets out every time you reach the red line. If I owned one of these, the first thing I’d do is find the right fuse to rip out and shut that thing the hell up.
As I’m slowing down to pull in and start Snapchatting, I pay a little more attention to my surroundings, and quickly miss the Civic’s quirky and solid cabin. The Megane’s interior is much more dull, feels a lot more flimsy, and the optional Recaro seats just aren’t as supportive as the Honda’s standard chairs. The instrument binnacle is particularly depressing; injecting a little more pizazz wouldn’t have been that hard, surely?
But I don’t care, I love the Megane. It feels amazing to drive, I prefer the… oh, hang on, it won’t start. A momentary blip, surely? That’s what I’m hoping, but I’ve just locked it, unlocked it and tried again, but nada. Another attempt, and nothing. All I get is a little ‘donk’ from under the bonnet as I hit the starter button. Now, it would be wrong to draw any conclusions from a single breakdown, but it really doesn’t help certain car stereotypes that the Japanese machine is still A-OK, and the French car has thrown a hissy fit and is refusing to play ball…
Fast forward a week, and the Cup-S has just been dropped back on my drive, having gone back to Renault over the weekend. Despite the recovery man’s insistence that the issue was either a broken starter motor or a bad connection, it turned out to be a simple blown fuse. Thankfully an easy fix, which means it’s back in my hands to enjoy a little more.
And that’s the key with this car: enjoyment. It can’t do what the Honda does, which is astonish you with its absurd front-end grip, rabid power delivery and searing cross-country pace. The Honda feels like it’s moved the game on much further (with the Focus RS probably moving it further still, but unlike my colleagues I’m yet to have a shot in one), but the simple fact is I find the Renault more fun to drive, and I suspect a lot of petrolheads out there would happily lose a bit of ability for that.
I prefer having all that extra feedback, I prefer its wiggly arse, and I prefer its more linear power delivery. No other car in this class feels quite so tactile, so we just have to pray that the next one pulls off the same trick.
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i had the opportunity to drive booth , and i like booth, i prefer the Civic from the back and the megane from the front, booth are good and fast cars, im kind of a JDM fan boy, so i would pick the Type-R , but the megane is so awesome to drive on a sporty way and as a daily is awesome *_* , sadly there are no big tuning parts for the megane :/
i think since im own and daily drive a RS , i would pick the Mazda 3 MPS :P not the best car to drive… really not, but it looks much more awesome and of course JDM :P
I have a gen2 MPS and to me it’s an absolute gem. It’s quite demanding to drive at first but get used to it and it’s amazing! Although the turbo-laggy character is shared between the new Type R and MPS the Mazda isn’t that bad, but it has a healthy dose of torque steer to compensate :p Modification is also easy and the options are very broad, so making it a proper weapon isn’t difficult given that you have the time and money, mine just has a few bolt ons to up the power a bit and it transforms the car completely!
I really hate the Honda, so I would choose the Renault. But for that money are there many other cars i would want.
The French always been the better one when it comes to hot hatches, they’re in the game for quite some time. The Megane RS3 simply is really hard to beat. It has way more character than its compatibles by other brands and to me personally that does a lot. Even though its on the market for 6 years already and the design is already 7 years old, it doesn’t look outdated compared to other hot hatches yet.
But does your Renaultsport Megane come with Turbo-VTAK? NO….
That’s what I thought
Lot of hate coming probably, but honda looks very cheap compared to renault,,
Id personally would have to go for the Civic. Why? Because i prefer the looks and the noise.
Honda all the way, it’s just….. better
There’s a saying I like to believe in, is that you know a car is meant for you even if it is unrefined compared to a German car, has a ride that’ll break your back over every speed bump or gives your leg cramp when driving through rush hour traffic in cities, yet you are willing to live with those difficulties on a day to day basis 7 days a week.
Long story short I would still go for the Civic (biased being a JDM fan), but I do recognize why some will favor the Renault pocket rocket.
If you see wikipedia, recent Renaultsport Mégane using a FART Engine xD
I’d rather have the Honda.